martes, 4 de noviembre de 2008

Frankenstein-- Fallen angel?


After we´ve looked at Book 1 of Paradise Lost, what do we think? How does Milton characterize Satan? Why did the creature choose to compare himself to Satan and Adam? Which comparison seems more accurate and why?

Respond to these questions, or something related. Don´t be afraid to get off topic-- and draw on the texts whenever you need to. Also, try to respond to each other´s comments.

5 comentarios:

Simon dijo...

view to an old biblical tale. It showed us Stan's point of view something, we specially, are not very used to. I liked it alot.
- HE makes satan look like a monstruous thing. He compares him to many mythical creatures such as the titans or th leviathan and gives him an enourmous size and wings.
- The monster compres himself to adam because, like god to adam, he created him to be loved, cared for and to be god (even thought that was not what truly happened); and he comprares himself to satan by the fact that he was rejected by his creator. The comparison of adam seems more accurate because of the purpose he was created. Victor did not create the monster to help him (like angels were created to help god) he merly created him out of curiosity and probably to love something after his mother died. That description sounds more related to the one of victor and his creature than the one of a reveled servant that bellieved he was greater than his master.

Andres dijo...

In Paradise Lost, at least in the excerpt we read, Satan is portrayed as a rational being who has a slightly perverted perspective of Earth and ethics in general. I believe that Willy's reading of Paradise Lost served to distort his conscience as, going with what Satan said, evil became his good. he chose that path of distorted morals. He saw himself as Adam only in the createe aspect but he saw his true feelings and situations reflected in Satan; he saw that he had power. One thing i noticed about Milton's Satan is that he can change his shape into that of a hideous serpent or a seraphic cherub, Willy cannot, he is stuck in his repulsive form so all he has left to relate to are Satan's beliefs; he, unlike Adam, has no one else. Willy seems to be a character easily swayed by things he believes he can rwlate with, ie: since Satan was rejected and went through this that means i will most likely end up aong the same path. In case i haven't made it explicit enough, i believe that the Satan-Willy comparison is the more accurate due to the fact that they both do say the same things (Willy's quoting of Milton towards the end) and they do follow the same path to an extent. Willy chooses to spurn his creator/master just as Satan himelf did even though Willy regrets it later.

P.S. Willy is the creature in case you were confused :P (you can call him Wily for a more villainous connotation)

Michelle dijo...
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Michelle dijo...

I would like to comment on the comments of others. Simon believed the monster to be more like Adam while Andres found him more like Satan. Well First off i want to agree with simon about paradise lost. The way that milton humanizes Satan and shows us another side of him not told in the story books is incredibly interesting.
I do not believe that Adam and the monster were created for similar reasons, yes I do believe that their entry into the world is similar in the fact that both have a sole creator, no mother or father; but the purpose of their creation varies entirely. I do not think that the monsters comparison to Satan was based on their "common ground" of rejection by their creator. Because Satan was not rejected by God, he fell from his graces when he tried to gain god's power. Satan's envy was his own ruin, while the monster was rejected. His once innocent and pure heart turned into stone from his very first memories of rejection and hardship from his interaction with humans. Although there is still a soft spot in the heart of the monster, until like Satan. Andres' comment on that, I find very true. But i dont believe that either Satan or "Willy" (the monster) believed that what they did was good. Both parties wanted to do evil and wanted to hurt those near them.

edsgotajob dijo...

"view to an old biblical tale", Satan is nothing but evil itself. However, The creature compares himself to Satan and Adam because they as well, were creations of God, and in that way he make up a reference to his relation with Victor. Milton describes Satan not as an malicious being, but someone who thinks not as described in the bible. He believes that he deserved to be like god, not for selfish reasons, but because he believed he was better at it. The monster in Frankenstein is portrayed in this way to show how he tries to defy his maker, how he create conflict with him, how he obliged to withstand whatever the maker says or does because by facts, they are dominant in the situation. When comparing to Adam, the monster uses that term to explain how he was created for good but was then cursed and damned by his own master, and that by this misery, he was condemned to live in wretchedness til the day he perished.
The comparison is accurate because Paradise lost is the pivot point of the whole novel.